Warning: SFWA business and potential drama ahead!

SFWA elections are coming up again soon, and after three terms, President John Scalzi has announced that he’s done trying to herd this particular clowder of cats. Knowing how difficult writers can be, I can’t imagine how he’s done it for this long, but he has my thanks for his work and service, and for helping to push through some important changes.

The first person to announce his candidacy for SFWA president was Theodore Beale, aka Vox Day. Steven Gould has also tossed his hat into the ring. I knew Gould as the author of Jumper, among other things, and we’re on at least one mailing list together. Beale’s name was vaguely familiar, but I couldn’t remember where I had heard it. So I went looking…

What I found raised some concerns. Beale is a prolific blogger, and has written such pieces as Women Ruin Everything, in which he he starts out talking about Title IX and moves onto politics. He writes, apparently in all seriousness:

Orwell put it beautifully.  All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others.  And the Sports Guy put it even better: women ruin everything.

Do you really think it was an accident that women were never permitted any voice in the governance of the Roman Republic or the great historical democracies such as Athens, Thebes, Imperial Britain, and Revolutionary America?  Do you really believe it to be a mere coincidence that many modern democracies, including Germany, Italy, and the member states of the European Union, were not able to survive even 100 years of female suffrage?

He also writes columns for WND, such as this one titled Why women’s rights are wrong:

I very much like women and wish them well, which is precisely why I consider women’s rights to be a disease that should be eradicated.

Or this one, wherein he describes the real threat to science:

But this is not to say there is not a genuine threat to all three aspects of science today. Unsurprisingly, it comes from the same force that is the primary threat to the survival of Western civilization: female equalitarianism.

Beale also has a history of referring to current SFWA president John Scalzi as “McRapey.” In case that was too subtle, he also titled his first such post John Scalzi is a Rapist. (Beale also talks about how rapists are more likely to vote Democratic, because one third of all forcible rapists are black.)

I wonder if the SFWA will be concerned that their current president is an admitted rapist or if they’ll take the approach towards him that NOW and the other feminist groups did towards Bill Clinton.  Of course, unlike Scalzi, Clinton never admitted to being a rapist … Wait, he claims his confession is satire?  Well, that might fool anyone unfamiliar with the concept of blown cover as cover.

He was recently asked about the value of SFWA on his blog

VD, any value with the SFWA?

Considerable entertainment value, but other than that, not so much.

Which does tend to reinforce my gut feeling that he’s running for president for the laughs. He’s been toying with the idea of running for SFWA president for several years now. Back in 2010, after quoting a hateful rant about Wiscon, he joked (at least, I assume this is supposed to be a joke):

I feel inspired to run against John Scalzi for SFWA President next year. My platform is going to involve disenfranchising all of the female members and endorsing a Federal law banning women from writing any science fiction or fantasy that does not contain vampires or wereseals and comes with a warning label: WARNING: this is Vampire/Wereseal fiction, not actual science fiction or fantasy.

Now, Beale has argued that just because people think he’s an asshole and disagree with his personal beliefs doesn’t mean he’d be a bad leader. There’s some truth to this. But in this case, I believe his personal beliefs and proclamations would seriously interfere with his ability to lead the organization. The president of SFWA has to be able to work with others on the board and within the organization. I’ve seen nothing to suggest his ability to do this, particularly when others disagree with him. Nor do I trust him to treat members with respect, particularly if those members happen to have the “wrong” chromosomal pair.

As president, Beale would be the public face of the organization. He would have to work with a board made of up people who might not be white or male or straight, and who might not always agree with him. And my sense is that this is a disaster waiting to happen.

The first five points of his platform for SFWA presidency are here.

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Steven Gould has posted his platform and qualifications as a SF/F author here.

I don’t actually have that much to say about his candidacy, save that he seems to have a realistic sense of the internal and external challenges facing the organization, has shared and supported ideas for moving SFWA forward, and certainly has a strong SF/F background.

For me though, one of Gould’s strongest qualifications is that he’s not Theodore Beale.

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For those of you who are members of SFWA, please take some time to read through the discussion forums, review the Q&A with the candidates as well as their platforms, and vote.

Note: There’s a good chance this post will attract trolls. I don’t plan on moderating the comments here, and I suggest not engaging with any trolls who do show up. I’m hopeful things will stay civilized, but if not, well, they say you can judge a man by the company he keeps…

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From: [personal profile] celestinenox


My entire response to Beale: UGH.

What I also find intriguing in the comments to his post is the debate over whether or not scifi and fantasy need separate categories, and why. Thing is, the people who keep saying it's really easy to tell the difference between scifi and fantasy ("one has elves and fairies, one does not") aren't taking into account that both genres are changing. I don't read enough scifi to really be able to comment on that genre, but fantasy is really reaching out and becoming a whole different beast than what the people commenting on that post seem to think.
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From: [personal profile] celestinenox


I'm not a member of SFWA, and at this rate probably never will be, so I'm not entering into any debates, and have nothing to say on whether or not the Nebulas need splitting. I just think it's an interesting debate that has merit outside the particular sphere of the Nebulas and SFWA.

No kidding; I've never read the Pern books and probably never will (heard too much about too many problematic things in them), but I can believe they were pushing those boundaries.

Genres as a whole are really more fluid than many people seem to think; we're almost always writing or reading books that can be classified under any number of genre umbrellas. With all the creativity going on in the fantasy genre right now, I don't understand how people can just write it off as "elves and fairies" and nothing more.
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From: [personal profile] snippy


I'm not sure the boundaries were ever there--how do you even tell the difference between books that have a science fiction setting but are telling a story that isn't science fiction, and books that are about science fictional concepts (what are those, anyway) but have a fantasy setting? Asimov wrote science fiction mysteries, for heaven's sake! But there's still some kind of line, I know it when I see it, between "urban fantasy with a love story element" and "paranormal romance." The emphasis is just different enough.
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From: [personal profile] al_zorra


What got him finally kicked off Black Gate was his column in which he claimed the female authors of SFWA are the corruptors of the Neb. This under guise of supposedly explaining why amazon purged authors from reviewing or something.

How he was allowed to write on BG at all -- I was astonished when 'Theo' showed up there -- another signal that the site was losing value -- voicing anti-woman and other anti-rational claimes all over the place.

Why this particular one got him taken off Black Gate when he'd voiced just as bad other stuff before -- though not about SFWA and the female members specifically.

As far as his chances of being elected, he surely knows as well as anyone that since SFWA has so many female members who are also voters, this is unlikely. Also he should understand that his platform which is to reform the Neb process -- that the SFWA prez isn't a divine right of kings and he can't implement anything without the vote of the membership and of the Board of Directors.

But then, the whole Neb and SFWA recurrency of the same old same old got me to drop my own membership some years back (and yes, I served on the Neb jury and the election committee when a member).

Love, C.
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From: [personal profile] al_zorra


As far as Steve being SFWA President? He's perfect. He's the classic face and stance of the best of SFWA presidents.

Well, yes, I have known Steve (and before that even, his lovely wife) for many years, so this is why I say it. They are both Science Fiction from the ends of their hair to the tips of their toes. They are also personable and non-combative people, with a hard core that doesn't allow for pushing around.

They would make great media presence for SFWA.

Love, C.

From: [personal profile] dsgood


C. L. Moore was mixing science fiction and fantasy in 1933: "Shambleau." And I'm fairly sure she was nowhere near the first.

Note: the difference is sometimes defined as -"science fiction is about things which aren't real, but could be. Fantasy is about things which can't be real."- But perhaps fiction written by and for people who believe in magic should be split out? But what if they don't believe in that particular kind of magic?
And where do we draw the line between magic and religion? Or politics, investment strategies....
lea_hazel: Don't make me look up from my book (Basic: Reading)

From: [personal profile] lea_hazel


I need to make a note, I'd never heard of C.L. Moore before.
muccamukk: Vala lying listlessly in the middle of a ruin. Text: "Bored Now." (SG-1: Bored Now)

From: [personal profile] muccamukk


I refuse to take anyone seriously if they quote Orwell so badly out of context.
lea_hazel: The Little Mermaid (Genre: Fantasy)

From: [personal profile] lea_hazel


The whole fantasy vs. science fiction debate has never been anything but a platform for arguing that everything women make and consume is inherently, objectively worthless. It's not a debate I'm willing to dignify because it's carried on by the exclusively un-self-aware, and it reeks.
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